tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8385392963347857134.post3533398639283008523..comments2023-10-23T09:51:37.441-05:00Comments on Blog of Pro-Porn Activism: Forget The Swedish Model...Iceland Goes APRF Crazy, Bans Strip ClubsRenegade Evolutionhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17905949172886730262noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8385392963347857134.post-84274511172553597592010-04-01T13:50:39.196-05:002010-04-01T13:50:39.196-05:00Out of safety and for the sake of not creating any...Out of safety and for the sake of not creating any more controversy, I will simply decide to close down comments here.<br /><br />I will be reposting this over at my SmackDog Chronicles blog, along with my own personal opinions on the overall state of the Left concerning sex work, and anyone wanting an extended debate will are encouraged to go there. <br /><br />To that end, any comments pending on this thread here from this point on will be rejected. If you happen to be on the queue, I offer my deepest apologies...but I would rather that this blog not be the source for any more drama.<br /><br />With that, I yield back the balance of the time, and close this thread.<br /><br /><br />AnthonyAnthony Kennersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00103420620416144653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8385392963347857134.post-11569984585282383212010-03-29T19:15:01.910-05:002010-03-29T19:15:01.910-05:00Oh, and before I forget: nice work on the look of ...Oh, and before I forget: nice work on the look of the blog, Anthony! I like the new visual theme.iacbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08267608319896053702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8385392963347857134.post-50189248673156657412010-03-29T19:08:29.464-05:002010-03-29T19:08:29.464-05:00Now as to the subject at hand, I posted about this...Now as to the subject at hand, I posted about this almost exactly a year ago (<a href="http://bppa.blogspot.com/2009/03/prohibitionism-marches-on.html" rel="nofollow">link</a>), when the law was first passed. There is also a complete ban on porn, though this simply continues Iceland's long-standing obscenity laws (though I suppose these laws are now "feminist" rather than traditionalist).<br /><br />One would hope that these kind of legal strategies will remain confined to the Nordic countries, with their fantasies of being a socialist feminist utopia, but such strategies are being pushed hard by socially conservative "progressives" the world over. Hopefully, as happened during the 1980s, there will be an authentically progressive backlash against this kind of neo-paternalism.iacbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08267608319896053702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8385392963347857134.post-48646915510167264872010-03-29T19:00:12.241-05:002010-03-29T19:00:12.241-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.iacbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08267608319896053702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8385392963347857134.post-45832252773966613922010-03-29T13:25:23.219-05:002010-03-29T13:25:23.219-05:00What pissed me off about that J Bindle piece is th...What pissed me off about that J Bindle piece is that she was treating the women working in that Icelandic place as badly as she imagined the customers of the place were. They were just fodder for her own fantasies. They didn't look happy, she said; but since she didn't ask them, or bother to find out what they would have been doing if they hadn't been working there, she could really have had no idea.<br />This is a law designed to make the middle class feel good about themselves, without actually having to do anything. The only people who will have to pay for it will be working class (and probably foreign), so that must be OK as well. I don't know how people like this manage to think of themselves as liberals.Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01698850550636271224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8385392963347857134.post-83888938544593628292010-03-28T18:20:05.824-05:002010-03-28T18:20:05.824-05:00Did you hear the news that a volcano erupted in Ic...Did you hear the news that a volcano erupted in Iceland? Maybe Mama Nature is expressing her objection.La Libertinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14051871564467162258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8385392963347857134.post-24015006817825224072010-03-28T15:41:41.981-05:002010-03-28T15:41:41.981-05:00Point acknowledged, Ernest.
I do reserve the righ...Point acknowledged, Ernest.<br /><br />I do reserve the right, though, as co-moderator of this blog, to republish my rebutal over at my own blog, if only to clear up my role in this and publically restate my positions in opposition to APRF's.<br /><br />I'd rather give them enough rope to hang them with; while you would shoot on sight. Just a slight difference in method, but different nevertheless.<br /><br /><br />AnthonyAnthony Kennersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00103420620416144653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8385392963347857134.post-41606082556384686032010-03-28T15:34:09.375-05:002010-03-28T15:34:09.375-05:00Anthony,
Correction. I have no objection to "...Anthony,<br /><br />Correction. I have no objection to "opposition voices" being heard here, not do I believe rational disagreement pollutes debate. On the contrary, I think such disagreement is the soul of debate.<br /><br />I do object to vituperative trolling aimed at derailing discussion in this space and I will continue to ban it, even at the cost of losing potentially valuable comments in reply.<br /><br />I have stated my reasons for this and I think they're pretty clear and logical and I'm not going quibble over them with friend or foe here or elsewhere.Ernest Greenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14371385468484866133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8385392963347857134.post-25575943958690002402010-03-28T15:06:30.503-05:002010-03-28T15:06:30.503-05:00I went ahead and deleted that last comment, since ...I went ahead and deleted that last comment, since the issues addressed should be vented more in private. I support Ernest's action regarding not allowing opposition voices to pollute debate here. I only wish that the baby hadn't been thrown out with the bath water, so to speak.<br /><br /><br />AnthonyAnthony Kennersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00103420620416144653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8385392963347857134.post-10026998242070579772010-03-28T14:18:50.572-05:002010-03-28T14:18:50.572-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anthony Kennersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00103420620416144653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8385392963347857134.post-62372520835202065252010-03-28T14:06:37.637-05:002010-03-28T14:06:37.637-05:00Readers will note that four blog posts have been p...Readers will note that four blog posts have been permanently deleted.<br /><br />Here's why. The first was from someone identifying as Anti-Porn Radical feminist and it was full of the usual ranting about "stinking hypocrites" and "vile misogynists."<br /><br />Though Anthony chose to respond with some attempt at debate, the whole reason moderation was instituted here was to preserve this space for porn-positive commentary and/or RATIONAL critical discourse regarding porn and sex work. There are plenty of places porn and sex work hate-mongers can go to spill their swill, but this isn't one of them. It's the only place on the Web exclusively dedicated to the purpose its name makes clear. It is a blog for pro-porn activism.<br /><br />Anti-porn activists are cordially invited to bugger off. Go complain about being "silenced" in any of the dozens of venues available to you for exactly that kind of whinging.Ernest Greenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14371385468484866133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8385392963347857134.post-74154743993618624832010-03-28T00:41:09.215-05:002010-03-28T00:41:09.215-05:00This has been in the works for some time and while...This has been in the works for some time and while it may be celebrated as a great victory by Ms. Bindel and some of her pals, it will merely add to the misery of sex workers in a country reduced to bankruptcy and begging within the EU owing to the utter incompetence and gullibility of its political leadership.<br /><br />One would think a nation in such dire straits would turn its attention to more urgent matters than shutting down strip clubs, and if the rad-fem gang in the UK really gave a skinny rat's ass about the circumstances of women there, they might address themselves to Iceland's economic plight as well, rather than misrepresenting this unfortunate nation as a feminist Eden. <br /><br />Given the desperation there right now, I'm sure that sex-work driven newly underground combined with high levels of alcohol consumption and profound hardship throughout the land will result in greater harm to sex-workers, who are unlikely to abandon their trades in pursuit of a mythical APRF utopia. <br /><br />Not that The Guardian, Bindel or the rest of their gang will lose any sleep over the suffering of a few fallen women in their pursuit of loftier priorities.Ernest Greenenoreply@blogger.com